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		<title>By: ninme</title>
		<link>http://ninme.com/archives/2006/01/desperately_bro.html/comment-page-1#comment-7756</link>
		<dc:creator>ninme</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jan 2006 18:57:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Uh huh.  Well the statistics are there, and they&#039;re serious, so it&#039;s hardly surprising that more than one person would write about them.  It&#039;s not something you can interpret, like the cyclical nature of global warming in an industrialized age.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Uh huh.  Well the statistics are there, and they&#8217;re serious, so it&#8217;s hardly surprising that more than one person would write about them.  It&#8217;s not something you can interpret, like the cyclical nature of global warming in an industrialized age.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Aakash</title>
		<link>http://ninme.com/archives/2006/01/desperately_bro.html/comment-page-1#comment-7755</link>
		<dc:creator>Aakash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jan 2006 09:11:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;It was around this time four years ago that a book was published on this topic, which quickly zoomed to the top of the bestseller list (thanks in part &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.drudgereport.com/mattpjb.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;to Matt Drudge&lt;/a&gt;). I was concerned about it at the time, that the book was too extreme, and would be blasted as such. As it turns out, it was praised by many critics, and &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Death_of_the_West&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;has made it&lt;/a&gt; into the encyclopedia. I am glad to now see that other columnists (even neoconservatives) are taking the same positions.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was around this time four years ago that a book was published on this topic, which quickly zoomed to the top of the bestseller list (thanks in part <a href="http://www.drudgereport.com/mattpjb.htm" rel="nofollow">to Matt Drudge</a>). I was concerned about it at the time, that the book was too extreme, and would be blasted as such. As it turns out, it was praised by many critics, and <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Death_of_the_West" rel="nofollow">has made it</a> into the encyclopedia. I am glad to now see that other columnists (even neoconservatives) are taking the same positions.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: ninme</title>
		<link>http://ninme.com/archives/2006/01/desperately_bro.html/comment-page-1#comment-7754</link>
		<dc:creator>ninme</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jan 2006 03:56:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Oh that&#039;s a relief.  I would feel bad if all this time I was hoping you&#039;d obligingly drop dead.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh that&#8217;s a relief.  I would feel bad if all this time I was hoping you&#8217;d obligingly drop dead.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Brett_McS</title>
		<link>http://ninme.com/archives/2006/01/desperately_bro.html/comment-page-1#comment-7753</link>
		<dc:creator>Brett_McS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jan 2006 02:07:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I&#039;m not quite ready for the Soylent Green factories, yet.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not quite ready for the Soylent Green factories, yet.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: ninme</title>
		<link>http://ninme.com/archives/2006/01/desperately_bro.html/comment-page-1#comment-7752</link>
		<dc:creator>ninme</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jan 2006 01:12:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Very sad.  Very very sad.  Oh god It&#039;s just so pathetic.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I&#039;m not sure how old you are, so I hope I&#039;m not wishing for your demise.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very sad.  Very very sad.  Oh god It&#8217;s just so pathetic.</p>

<p>I&#8217;m not sure how old you are, so I hope I&#8217;m not wishing for your demise.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Brett_McS</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brett_McS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jan 2006 01:04:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Yes, good point. It is clear that the post-boomers are rather more level-headed.  In that sense Bush-II is more a President for the younger generation, whereas Kerry would have been just a continuation of sad boomer politics.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, good point. It is clear that the post-boomers are rather more level-headed.  In that sense Bush-II is more a President for the younger generation, whereas Kerry would have been just a continuation of sad boomer politics.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: ninme</title>
		<link>http://ninme.com/archives/2006/01/desperately_bro.html/comment-page-1#comment-7750</link>
		<dc:creator>ninme</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jan 2006 23:14:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Almost, Phib.  I had my McVities today.  ;)&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;And I do agree about Mark Steyn&#039;s shortcomings, sort of.  I mean, things do tend to be more layered, but basically the mould is there.  I mean, think about it.  They attacked big time, in the heart of Establishment, killing friends and family of the Establishment (whom I mean to be the people in the west he&#039;s talking about), and just four years later that Establishment doesn&#039;t care anymore, and thinks any galvanization is just an over-reaction.  There&#039;s a good section on this in today&#039;s Best of the Web, btw.  So now we&#039;re at the point that he talks about, except as well these guys can&#039;t control their more enthusiastic young crazies and yet still things go their way.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;But I think what Mark&#039;s missing, and this is because he&#039;s of a certain age, that all the people in the West he&#039;s talking about are all baby boomers, and everyone behind baby boomers are going to run things a lot differently when the baby boomers have been gracious enough to drop dead.  But because everyone in the West runs on democracy, and the baby boom that produced the boomers was so boomy, we basically have to wait that long to get anything accomplished.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Almost, Phib.  I had my McVities today.  ;)</p>

<p>And I do agree about Mark Steyn&#8217;s shortcomings, sort of.  I mean, things do tend to be more layered, but basically the mould is there.  I mean, think about it.  They attacked big time, in the heart of Establishment, killing friends and family of the Establishment (whom I mean to be the people in the west he&#8217;s talking about), and just four years later that Establishment doesn&#8217;t care anymore, and thinks any galvanization is just an over-reaction.  There&#8217;s a good section on this in today&#8217;s Best of the Web, btw.  So now we&#8217;re at the point that he talks about, except as well these guys can&#8217;t control their more enthusiastic young crazies and yet still things go their way.</p>

<p>But I think what Mark&#8217;s missing, and this is because he&#8217;s of a certain age, that all the people in the West he&#8217;s talking about are all baby boomers, and everyone behind baby boomers are going to run things a lot differently when the baby boomers have been gracious enough to drop dead.  But because everyone in the West runs on democracy, and the baby boom that produced the boomers was so boomy, we basically have to wait that long to get anything accomplished.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Brett_McS</title>
		<link>http://ninme.com/archives/2006/01/desperately_bro.html/comment-page-1#comment-7749</link>
		<dc:creator>Brett_McS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jan 2006 22:48:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&quot;They know they can never win on the battlefield, but they figure there&#039;s an excellent chance they can drag things out until Western civilization collapses in on itself and Islam inherits by default.&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;But by (stupidly) attacking now, they are galvanizing the west to react against them, rather than letting it slide into the sunset.  (Of course the &quot;intellectual elite&quot; - including the media - will never get it, and will perhaps only ever achieve enlightenment as their heads roll across the floor, but the rest of us - the ordinary people - are waking up).&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;That is the thing I have noticed with Mark Steyn: his thinking is very linear.  Current trends are just extrapolated, without understanding that there are usually two or more players in the game that react and counter-react.  The type of thinking required here is more common in the economic analysis of markets, for example.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Not that Mark isn&#039;t good, but he ends up being too pessimistic because of this limitation in his thinking.  Personally, I think &lt;i&gt;even France&lt;/i&gt; will be OK, after all.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;They know they can never win on the battlefield, but they figure there&#8217;s an excellent chance they can drag things out until Western civilization collapses in on itself and Islam inherits by default.&#8221;</p>

<p>But by (stupidly) attacking now, they are galvanizing the west to react against them, rather than letting it slide into the sunset.  (Of course the &#8220;intellectual elite&#8221; &#8211; including the media &#8211; will never get it, and will perhaps only ever achieve enlightenment as their heads roll across the floor, but the rest of us &#8211; the ordinary people &#8211; are waking up).</p>

<p>That is the thing I have noticed with Mark Steyn: his thinking is very linear.  Current trends are just extrapolated, without understanding that there are usually two or more players in the game that react and counter-react.  The type of thinking required here is more common in the economic analysis of markets, for example.</p>

<p>Not that Mark isn&#8217;t good, but he ends up being too pessimistic because of this limitation in his thinking.  Personally, I think <i>even France</i> will be OK, after all.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: UNCoRRELATED</title>
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		<dc:creator>UNCoRRELATED</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jan 2006 22:27:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;A Fatal Meme&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Mark Steyn worried about demographics and mentions the European crisis on a regular basis. Well today he has an extensive article on the subject on OpinionJournal, actually a reprint from the New Criterion. The basic observation is that westerners are...&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>A Fatal Meme</strong></p>

<p>Mark Steyn worried about demographics and mentions the European crisis on a regular basis. Well today he has an extensive article on the subject on OpinionJournal, actually a reprint from the New Criterion. The basic observation is that westerners are&#8230;</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: CDR Salamander</title>
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		<dc:creator>CDR Salamander</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jan 2006 21:37:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;....I forgot.  I&#039;m a fan of Queen Victoria too.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;.I forgot.  I&#8217;m a fan of Queen Victoria too.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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