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		<title>By: Brett_McS</title>
		<link>http://ninme.com/archives/2006/12/like_all_politi.html/comment-page-1#comment-6432</link>
		<dc:creator>Brett_McS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Dec 2006 00:55:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I think we&#039;ve discovered/created a new isotope of irony.  Doesn&#039;t seem to register on normal irony-meters.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think we&#8217;ve discovered/created a new isotope of irony.  Doesn&#8217;t seem to register on normal irony-meters.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Veeshir</title>
		<link>http://ninme.com/archives/2006/12/like_all_politi.html/comment-page-1#comment-6431</link>
		<dc:creator>Veeshir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Dec 2006 18:31:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I don&#039;t know who you think you are, but stop bashing Newt! He said something that should have been said and that&#039;s pretty rare in our political leaders these days.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know who you think you are, but stop bashing Newt! He said something that should have been said and that&#8217;s pretty rare in our political leaders these days.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: DirtCrashr</title>
		<link>http://ninme.com/archives/2006/12/like_all_politi.html/comment-page-1#comment-6430</link>
		<dc:creator>DirtCrashr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Dec 2006 22:57:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Good for Newt!&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good for Newt!</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: ninme</title>
		<link>http://ninme.com/archives/2006/12/like_all_politi.html/comment-page-1#comment-6429</link>
		<dc:creator>ninme</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Dec 2006 16:16:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Hehehehe&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;No but seriously!  &quot;The following link says x&quot; &quot;The following link says x, eh? &lt;i&gt;[clicks link]&lt;/i&gt; Who are you and how &lt;i&gt;dare&lt;/i&gt; you say y?!?!&quot;&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hehehehe</p>

<p>No but seriously!  &#8220;The following link says x&#8221; &#8220;The following link says x, eh? <i>[clicks link]</i> Who are you and how <i>dare</i> you say y?!?!&#8221;</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: RC2</title>
		<link>http://ninme.com/archives/2006/12/like_all_politi.html/comment-page-1#comment-6428</link>
		<dc:creator>RC2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Dec 2006 14:41:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Your honor, I rise in the defense of ninme. It&#039;s odd the post was so misread when Glenn Reynolds told them in advance what it said. (Except, nin, you know, God doesn&#039;t really hate the Arabs and they don&#039;t all belong in jail.)&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your honor, I rise in the defense of ninme. It&#8217;s odd the post was so misread when Glenn Reynolds told them in advance what it said. (Except, nin, you know, God doesn&#8217;t really hate the Arabs and they don&#8217;t all belong in jail.)</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Rueful Red</title>
		<link>http://ninme.com/archives/2006/12/like_all_politi.html/comment-page-1#comment-6427</link>
		<dc:creator>Rueful Red</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Dec 2006 10:36:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Sorry, meant to say &quot;not to pick up imams&quot;.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, meant to say &#8220;not to pick up imams&#8221;.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Rueful Red</title>
		<link>http://ninme.com/archives/2006/12/like_all_politi.html/comment-page-1#comment-6426</link>
		<dc:creator>Rueful Red</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Dec 2006 09:54:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Been reading for months now, ninme! It&#039;s a whole new world!
They were obviously testing out the aircrew&#039;s reaction to lowish-level provocations. Given the crap that the airline industry (not to mention US immigration service) inflicts on friends of the US, there&#039;s a bit of me that resents the fact they weren&#039;t just shot on sight.
Wonder whether taxi drivers are allowed to to pick up imams at airports?&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Been reading for months now, ninme! It&#8217;s a whole new world!
They were obviously testing out the aircrew&#8217;s reaction to lowish-level provocations. Given the crap that the airline industry (not to mention US immigration service) inflicts on friends of the US, there&#8217;s a bit of me that resents the fact they weren&#8217;t just shot on sight.
Wonder whether taxi drivers are allowed to to pick up imams at airports?</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: ninme</title>
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		<dc:creator>ninme</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Dec 2006 06:44:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Aww, thanks Half!&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;It comforts me to know that I have readers who are irony-abled, and, uh, you know, literate.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aww, thanks Half!</p>

<p>It comforts me to know that I have readers who are irony-abled, and, uh, you know, literate.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Brett_McS</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brett_McS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Dec 2006 01:06:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;This was certainly a try-on, whether or not it was part of a plan to get the stalled anti-profiling legislation through.  At its most basic I think it is part of the on-going push to carve out Islam-only territory (physical and legal).&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;It can take a while to get used to the ninme irony style.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This was certainly a try-on, whether or not it was part of a plan to get the stalled anti-profiling legislation through.  At its most basic I think it is part of the on-going push to carve out Islam-only territory (physical and legal).</p>

<p>It can take a while to get used to the ninme irony style.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Brian Macker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian Macker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Dec 2006 22:46:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;If they wanted to talk they should have sat in their assigned seats and not distributed themselves around the plane at the exits.  It&#039;s quite apparent they were trying to cause trouble.   I work with Muslims and they don&#039;t make it a habit to pray loudly.  Nor do they do so in view of non-believers unless they don&#039;t have a choice.  At least that&#039;s what they do here in New York (prior to 9/11) in front of Kafirs.   The sermons I see on Memri are not the same.  Nor the prayers I&#039;ve seen in videos of Muslims firing rockets on helicopters.   They seem to like to shout prayers out loud just before they are about to do something really awful.   Shouts of &quot;Allah Akbar&quot; (God is Great)or &quot;There is No God but Allah&quot; before they commit some violent act.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;10:02 a.m. September 11, 2001: 9/11 Commission Details the Moments Before Flight 93 Crash

According to the 9/11 Commission, a Flight 93 hijacker says, “Pull it down! Pull it down!” The airplane rolls onto its back as one of the hijackers shouts, “Allah o akbar! Allah o akbar!” The commission comments, “The hijackers remained at the controls but must have judged that the passengers were only seconds from overcoming them.” &lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;p&gt;It the direct association between the praying and the killing that has been going on for centuries that is the problem.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;If you were so inclined you might also go out and find those videos of Muslim Imams advocating violence from the pulpit.  Not mild stuff like &quot;If Chavez thinks we are going to assasinate him then we might as well go ahead and do it&quot;.    No we&#039;re talking about clerics brandishing swords and calling for genocide.   It&#039;s not just one guy either.   Almost every one of these terrorist attacks has some imam behind it.   The first bombing of the world trade center involved a cleric.   The chants of &quot;Death to America&quot; involves Muslim clerics.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Muslim clerics just are not analogous to the kind of modern Christian or Jewish cleric we are used to.  You know the non-violent kind.  They are more akin to the kind of clerics prevalent during the Spanish Inquisition (a reactionary revolt against .. you guessed it ... Muslim opression.  Ever hear of the martyrs of Cordoba).&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I suggest you read the entire Qur&#039;an an not just the few vague semi-tolerant passages from when Mohammed was too weak to force his views on anyone.   Make sure you read the chapters titled &quot;The Spoils [of war]&quot; and &quot;The Ranks [of war]&quot;. Keep in mind while reading any passages justifying polygamy for the sake of widows and orphans exactly who is it that made them widows and orphans.   Also make sure you read the parts of the religious text that justify being able to keep as many slave girls as you want and rape them as you like.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;When you have the most esteemed clerics at the most esteemed Islamic religious universities not being able to condemn suicide bombing and you have many clerics celibrating events like 9/11 I think it is pretty damn sensible to view Islamic prayer with suspicion.   Especially when combined with other quite clearly provocative behavior like having making very anti-American comments, discussing Osama and the like.   Look it up on google: &quot;witnesses told law enforcement that the men spoke in Arabic and English, criticizing the war in Iraq and President Bush, and talking about al Qaeda and Osama bin Laden.&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Plus these bastards, like many of these clerics are associated with terrorist organizations.  Well paint me surprised.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Why don&#039;t you go out and learn about the Christian that was lynched for drinking from the &quot;Muslim only&quot; water communal water cup in Pakistan?  Why the hell should the fact that we think, no make that know, that Islam is used to justify terrorism and want to take precautions worrry you when Muslims don&#039;t even allow non-muslims the right to drink out of a cup.   When the Muslim religion considers non-muslims naja, the equivalent of dirty feces.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;This was an obvious staged event and these bastards ought to be in jail.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If they wanted to talk they should have sat in their assigned seats and not distributed themselves around the plane at the exits.  It&#8217;s quite apparent they were trying to cause trouble.   I work with Muslims and they don&#8217;t make it a habit to pray loudly.  Nor do they do so in view of non-believers unless they don&#8217;t have a choice.  At least that&#8217;s what they do here in New York (prior to 9/11) in front of Kafirs.   The sermons I see on Memri are not the same.  Nor the prayers I&#8217;ve seen in videos of Muslims firing rockets on helicopters.   They seem to like to shout prayers out loud just before they are about to do something really awful.   Shouts of &#8220;Allah Akbar&#8221; (God is Great)or &#8220;There is No God but Allah&#8221; before they commit some violent act.</p>

<blockquote>10:02 a.m. September 11, 2001: 9/11 Commission Details the Moments Before Flight 93 Crash

According to the 9/11 Commission, a Flight 93 hijacker says, “Pull it down! Pull it down!” The airplane rolls onto its back as one of the hijackers shouts, “Allah o akbar! Allah o akbar!” The commission comments, “The hijackers remained at the controls but must have judged that the passengers were only seconds from overcoming them.” </blockquote>

<p>It the direct association between the praying and the killing that has been going on for centuries that is the problem.</p>

<p>If you were so inclined you might also go out and find those videos of Muslim Imams advocating violence from the pulpit.  Not mild stuff like &#8220;If Chavez thinks we are going to assasinate him then we might as well go ahead and do it&#8221;.    No we&#8217;re talking about clerics brandishing swords and calling for genocide.   It&#8217;s not just one guy either.   Almost every one of these terrorist attacks has some imam behind it.   The first bombing of the world trade center involved a cleric.   The chants of &#8220;Death to America&#8221; involves Muslim clerics.</p>

<p>Muslim clerics just are not analogous to the kind of modern Christian or Jewish cleric we are used to.  You know the non-violent kind.  They are more akin to the kind of clerics prevalent during the Spanish Inquisition (a reactionary revolt against .. you guessed it &#8230; Muslim opression.  Ever hear of the martyrs of Cordoba).</p>

<p>I suggest you read the entire Qur&#8217;an an not just the few vague semi-tolerant passages from when Mohammed was too weak to force his views on anyone.   Make sure you read the chapters titled &#8220;The Spoils [of war]&#8221; and &#8220;The Ranks [of war]&#8220;. Keep in mind while reading any passages justifying polygamy for the sake of widows and orphans exactly who is it that made them widows and orphans.   Also make sure you read the parts of the religious text that justify being able to keep as many slave girls as you want and rape them as you like.</p>

<p>When you have the most esteemed clerics at the most esteemed Islamic religious universities not being able to condemn suicide bombing and you have many clerics celibrating events like 9/11 I think it is pretty damn sensible to view Islamic prayer with suspicion.   Especially when combined with other quite clearly provocative behavior like having making very anti-American comments, discussing Osama and the like.   Look it up on google: &#8220;witnesses told law enforcement that the men spoke in Arabic and English, criticizing the war in Iraq and President Bush, and talking about al Qaeda and Osama bin Laden.&#8221;</p>

<p>Plus these bastards, like many of these clerics are associated with terrorist organizations.  Well paint me surprised.</p>

<p>Why don&#8217;t you go out and learn about the Christian that was lynched for drinking from the &#8220;Muslim only&#8221; water communal water cup in Pakistan?  Why the hell should the fact that we think, no make that know, that Islam is used to justify terrorism and want to take precautions worrry you when Muslims don&#8217;t even allow non-muslims the right to drink out of a cup.   When the Muslim religion considers non-muslims naja, the equivalent of dirty feces.</p>

<p>This was an obvious staged event and these bastards ought to be in jail.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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